tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10890387.post115229620148149337..comments2023-12-25T00:38:19.500-08:00Comments on Finding Wonderland: The WritingYA Weblog (archive): UNbelievable.Sarah Stevensonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16534942492714970282noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10890387.post-1152568439181279892006-07-10T14:53:00.000-07:002006-07-10T14:53:00.000-07:00While I agree with the sentiment, and the argument...While I agree with the sentiment, and the arguments, the article quoted is flawed, however, as public schooling was not provisioned in the constitution; it came much later, and as such, was not envisioned by the framers. The framers would have had their own offspring educated, but left those of others as ignorant as possible....<BR/><BR/>Resorting to "what the Framers intended" is a largely false argument, as we're presupposing that the Framers were all-knowing and cared about what we care about - which is patently and obviously false, as we regard their slave-worked plantations, the fact that you couldn't vote unless you were a property-owning male, and the list goes on.<BR/><BR/>The issue of censorship is one of particular import in the educational arena, as we consider whether or not refusing to present a given opinion constitutes censorship. I believe that it may, provided that the view suppressed is credible enough to be surrounded with honest discussion and debate. To refust to present such a view would constitute censorship, as we are refusing to allow the discussion.<BR/><BR/>It is not about the book. It is about the discussion <B>surrounding</B> the book. If we do not present the book, we do not encourage the discussion, and we have committed censorship.David T. Macknethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03074123750929335716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10890387.post-1152568139572566552006-07-10T14:48:00.000-07:002006-07-10T14:48:00.000-07:00Well that's an interesting op-ed piece. I daresay ...Well that's an interesting op-ed piece. I daresay that the principle can be argued, but I must ask again <I>has everyone read the book?</I> How can anyone decide if they're being asked to foot the bill for "falsehoods, propaganda or insulting imagery"; "misinformation and lies" if they haven't read it? <BR/><BR/>Additionally, one could spin this particular taxpayers-should-not-be-forced-to-support argument right back into the realm of what we deem as "harmful" for students to read or know. No two taxpayers are ever going to agree on that, thus public education is ever going to run into challenges. Hopefully not everyone will decide as the Wilsona District did...<BR/><BR/>Finally, the framers of the Constitution did <I>not</I> provision public education as part of everyone's "unalienable rights." As far as I understand my history, and the history of education, that came much later.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, all, for your astute comments!tanita✿davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01671822274852087499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10890387.post-1152415288975667902006-07-08T20:21:00.000-07:002006-07-08T20:21:00.000-07:00Just discovered your blog, it's great.I also agree...Just discovered your blog, it's great.<BR/>I also agree, they're way too many folks that are making themselves far more important to the lives and the moral development of the children in any district than they really areAJ Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07989100615865991080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10890387.post-1152310445620172382006-07-07T15:14:00.000-07:002006-07-07T15:14:00.000-07:00We've entered the Brave New World....I worked at B...We've entered the Brave New World....<BR/><BR/>I worked at Barnes & Noble when I was just out of High School (oh, SO many years ago). One of the things we had to do was to go through books which might be objectionable & pull from the shelves those books which had been defaced. We accumulated quite a few over the months that I was there - some of which were the large-format art books containing works by DaVinci and the like.<BR/><BR/>Apparently the person who was doing the defacing (white-out, razors, markers, etc.) has found a nice cozy job in a library someplace. Creepy.David T. Macknethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03074123750929335716noreply@blogger.com